Here is an email I received on 10/29/11
Well I didn’t read every comment. I am sure Roy is right about Gravity being a Push Force or Push Effect. If Gravity were not pushing as Roy describes, every piece of matter would just be sucked together.
Roy is just as “right” as any so-called expert on physics. Most black hole theorists and string theory fantasy physicists have it all wrong. It is all just about getting money for a grant and that is it. You have a really stupid theory like string ‘cheese’ theory and you write a book and you get money and you get to keep your job in the physics dept. I once tried to carry on a conversation with a String Theory physicist from the University of Santa Cruz and he refused to even carry on a conversation with me. He was an expert on the topic of so-called String Theory and this educated idiot would not carry on a conversation with me even about the basics of String. Get Real. There are so many lies and bogus theories out there it is ridiculous.
Things that are 100% real: Gravity causes clocks to slow down. As gravity gets more intense clocks slow down. When clocks move with reference to another frame they move slower. This has all been studied, evaluated, and nearly 100% proven via design and study of the GPS Global Positioning System. The GPS clocks ‘tik’ at a different rate in space than they do when sitting on the surface of the earth. The clock speed is adjusted to make up for this effect. GPS requires totally accurate Cesium Clocks. Without these clocks the system would not operate. This is one of the most amazing systems ever created compliments of the US GOV. No one gets how complicated this system is or its manifestations.
You are all wrong physicists geeks. Hawking and all the rest are ‘wronger’ than Roy Masters will ever be wrong. Roy Masters is mostly right in his talks about physics. Browsing Roy’s book there were a couple of typos or technical errors. I did not check the latest edition. Roy is CORRECT 100% GRAVITY IS A PUSH FORCE!
GRAVITY IS A PUSH FORCE!!!
Gravity is a push force and once the mainstream physicists get it the world with become a much better place. It might drive all of the power companies out of business but will probably just make them switch the way power is generated.
And you idiots out there that think there was any dangerous radiation released in the Japan earthquake. You are crazy. The entire world could easily be powered by less than 10,000 reactors similar to those on nuclear powered subs and aircraft carriers. The only reason this is not happening it would run the oil and gas companies out of business and electricity would be essentially free.
Back to the topic. ROY IS RIGHT
GRAVITY IS A PUSH FORCE OR PUSH EFFECT AND IT MEANS GRAVITY IS EVERYWHERE OR THIS FORCE IS EVERYWHERE. It is similar to fish swimming in water. WE ARE ALL SWIMMING IN A SEA OF ENERGY.
My Response:
“Well I didn’t read every comment”. You should. In fact read my page several times. You might learn that you’re presently an overly-opinionated moron, like your mentor.
Posturing Bum
Response I got back:
I am my own mentor and I do my best to present TRUTH. I came up with the push gravity concept long before I knew who Roy Masters even was. Whoever you are, you don’t get it. I ran a marathon once in L.A. I had checked the course about 5 times. The starting gun went off and the pack headed out. The press truck in front of the pack turned off the course. The entire pack followed the press truck, yes even me. The entire population of the planet, including yourself, (if you are the one who made the comment to my comment) is going the wrong direction.
My Response:
Like Roy you run off fanaticism. Actual researchers have the discipline and humility to look at things systematically and exhaustively.
Response:
Explain what Blackholes, String Theory, Multiverse, and Big Bang have to do with “Actual researchers have the discipline and humility to look at things systematically and exhaustively.” Otherwise this conversation is done. It is all about getting the money! Books, research grants, fellowships, tenure.
My Response:
You talk like someone who has NEVER had to earn a living as a researcher. I have. It is about those things. They don’t get them by turning out garbage. Roy doesn’t have to produce results so he and his buddies on his program can engage in undisciplined verbal masturbation. Blackholes, string theory, multiverse are born out of basic, disciplined mathematics that researchers must develop to move basic physics forward. Roy believes that the bulk of physics exists as a thin veneer of baseless, speculative information. He thinks this because he is pig ignorant about basic science. By his own admission he didn’t read anything on the topic of physics before writing “Finding God In Physics” — Raw lunacy. Also, blackholes are now commonly observed to exist at the center of most if not all galaxies.
Response:
Roy gets it just a right as any researcher these days. I speak about researchers looking into ozone holes, global warming, climate change, cancer, big bang, evolution theory, anthropology and the history of man, gravity, and string theory. There is no discipline, logic, common sense involved with any of those so-called theories, concepts or research. It is all total hogwash. Those concepts are all garbage. They are not moving physics or other areas of science forward they are moving physics back to the dark ages. Astrophysicists do not even understand the solar system, gravity, or the universe. When a space craft is launched in to deep space it does not always travel on the path predicted by their fancy equations.
I am not a big Roy Masters supporter, but he can promote any theory he wants. USA = freedom of speech. Well it is supposed to be that way. Roy can say whatever he wants and he figured it out and has his voice heard on the radio. Why don’t you get you own radio show and do the same thing. You are just jealous of Roy’s success. Roy doesn’t have any ‘buddies’ on his program, he just has depressed people calling him so he can solve their problems. I usually shut that part of his program off. You obviously have never ever listened to his show. Mark Masters is a big success story too. He runs TRN, Talk Radio Network. Call him and maybe he will promote your show with your views.
Get your head out of you ass and open your mind. You are one of those educated idiots that Roy speaks about.
My Reponse:
One point at a time:
“Roy gets it just a right as any researcher these days. I speak about researchers looking into ozone holes, global warming, climate change, cancer, big bang, evolution theory, anthropology and the history of man, gravity, and string theory. There is no discipline, logic, common sense involved with any of those so-called theories, concepts or research. It is all total hogwash. Those concepts are all garbage. They are not moving physics or other areas of science forward they are moving physics back to the dark ages. Astrophysicists do not even understand the solar system, gravity, or the universe.” - Like Roy you have uninformed opinions. You probably think that the CIA killed JFK, Y2K was going to be the end of mankind, we never landed on the moon, and the government is suppressing evidence of alien life visiting Earth. This to me is white trash banter. It is based on paranoia and deep ignorance. The body of scientific evidence that mainstream science collects is detailed and beautifully analytical. I know what technical deception looks like. It exists. It is not what either you nor Roy are talking about.
When a space craft is launched in to deep space it does not always travel on the path predicted by their fancy equations. – B fancy you mean that cosmology is just simplistic science generated by throwing darts at a board and seeing what sticks. Why don’t you find out that there are thousands of well-educated, highly skilled researchers in such a field. They are constantly running astronomical observations, detailed mathematical models and generating highly scientific papers expanding their field. Answer: Because it would force you to realize that you’re not cut out to be technically competent. You and Roy think modern science is some occult conspiracy.
I am not a big Roy Masters supporter, but he can promote any theory he wants. USA = freedom of speech. Well it is supposed to be that way. Roy can say whatever he wants and he figured it out and has his voice heard on the radio. That is not in dispute. I also have the freedom of speech to show his commentary and writings to be stream-of-thought drivel being spouted by a dummy and a hypocrite.
Why don’t you get you own radio show and do the same thing. I don’t have to. The information is already public knowledge.
You are just jealous of Roy’s success. I don’t get how I would be jealous of a double-talking fraud. I’m nauseated by the idea of unwarranted stature especially when gained through raw deception.
Roy doesn’t have any ‘buddies’ on his program. On his science program he has drafted two characters who join in on the “physics” chat. You can listen to past programs on his site www.gravitydrivenuniverse.org (a.k.a. http://www.threelosersjerk-off.com).
Mark Masters is a big success story too. He runs TRN, Talk Radio Network. Call him and maybe he will promote your show with your views. This is comical. Mark obviously arranged for Roy to get the program. His support of his father’s lunacy indicates that he would never support rational scientific discussion. I would add: Why would I need a program if Roy states that he wants anyone who can prove him wrong to call his physics show?
Get your head out of you ass and open your mind. You are one of those educated idiots that Roy speaks about. I am substantially more technically experienced than either you or Roy. I have seen technical deception in very hideous fashion. I’ve learned the value of being blunt. On the topic of physics, Roy Masters is a self-aggrandizing, double-talking, posturing dunce. He is motivated by a puerile desire to feel important whilst he is too lazy and spineless to learn rudimentary physics. So, deadbeat that he is, he creates a philosophy wherein modern science is all wet and every thought in his largely vacuous skull is manna from heaven. He did not even have the balls to agree to debate me with a moderator of his choosing. — Deadbeat. I’ll add that you are an uneducated idiot of the most crass kind, trying to substitute feces for competence. You’re sort of thinking is at the core of all seedy business practice. It costs this country hundreds of billions of dollars of wasted investment capital. Then people like you and Roy act so innocent when the venture collapses and the shareholders are royally screwed.
Response:
When a space craft is launched in to deep space it does not always travel on the path predicted by their fancy equations. - By fancy you mean that cosmology is just simplistic science generated by throwing darts at a board and seeing what sticks? Why don’t you find out that there are thousands of well-educated, highly skilled researchers in such a field. They are constantly running astronomical observations, detailed mathematical models and generating highly scientific papers expanding their field. Answer: Because it would force you to realize that you’re not cut out to be technically competent. You and Roy think modern science is some occult conspiracy.
I am not a big Roy Masters supporter, but he can promote any theory he wants. USA = freedom of speech. Well it is supposed to be that way. Roy can say whatever he wants and he figured it out and has his voice heard on the radio. That is not in dispute. I also have the freedom of speech to show his commentary and writings to be stream-of-thought drivel being spouted by a dummy and a hypocrite.
Why don’t you get you own radio show and do the same thing. I don’t have to. The information is already public knowledge. So you are technically smarter than Roy Master’s web designer and probably many folk end up clicking on your site than Roy’s. Big Deal. Liars and cheaters take advantage of Truth sayers but in the end Truth will prevail.
Roy also explains that by utilizing a system that can make use of tidal forces we basically have unlimited energy, clean energy yet available to the planet. Dispute that statment. Tides go up and down every day and they are not stopping any time in the near future. Roy is no crackpot, he does not get it 100% right but he gets it right most of the time. Anyone who thinks that Roy Masters has originated the idea of getting energy out of tidal changes has a major screw loose.
Roy doesn’t have any ‘buddies’ on his program. On his science program he has drafted two characters who join in on the “physics” chat. You can listen to past programs on his site www.gravitydrivenuniverse.org Well it took me a while, now I know how to get to Roy’s….website.
Mark Masters is a big success story too. He runs TRN, Talk Radio Network. Call him and maybe he will promote your show with your views. This is comical. Mark obviously arranged for Roy to get the program. His support of his father’s lunacy indicates that he would never support rational scientific discussion. I would add: Why would I need a program if Roy states that he wants anyone who can prove him wrong to call his physics show?
Get your head out of you ass and open your mind. You are one of those educated idiots that Roy speaks about. I am substantially more technically experienced than either you or Roy. I have seen technical deception in very hideous fashion. I’ve learned the value of being blunt. On the topic of physics, Roy Masters is a self-aggrandizing, double-talking, posturing dunce. He is motivated by a puerile desire to feel important whilst he is too lazy and spineless to learn rudimentary physics. So, deadbeat that he is, he creates a philosophy wherein modern science is all wet and every thought in his largely vacuous skull is manna from heaven. He did not even have the balls to agree to debate me with a moderator of his choosing. — Deadbeat. I’ll add that you are an uneducated idiot of the most crass kind trying to substitute feces for competence. You’re sort of thinking is at the core of all seedy business practice. It costs this country hundreds of billions of dollars of wasted investment capital. Then people like you and Roy act so innocent when the venture collapses.
Response:
Well looks like you are stalling.
Answer my 5 questions expediently and we can continue this exchange of words. If you can’t answer the questions at least tell me what you field of expetise is. There is more than electons for light to get entangled in while traveling through glass.
Tide energy is available so long at the moon and earth and sun are interacting and they have been going on for the last…….well at least 2000 years now I am sure we have tide charts. Your techno knowledge seems limited. Your time is running out. You have not answered a single one of the 5 technical questions I threw at you. What is your area of expertise? Sounds like you may have had a brush with quantum theory…..
My Response:
I can see more clearly you’re attraction to Roy’s mindset. You both engage in insidious deception- suggesting that my technical expertise is limited even though I provided a detailed breakdown of where his physics is nonsensical on the front page of my site. This is your mental block that you can look at that page and absorb nothing from it. Also, photons interact with the electrons in glass. That’s essentially it. The nuclei form only a very tiny portion of the solid’s volume.
I will give more detailed answers to you questions to help others see the game you just played.
1) What is the correct technical term to calculate your position on the earth using the GPS Satellite System. I will even give you a hint. Starts with a P ………
2) Explain in basic simple terms how the GPS system works. The global positioning system determines the position of an object on Earth through the coordination of signals received simultaneously from minimally 4 separate satellites. The “P” word you refer to is likely “pseudoranging”, which is generation of a close approximation of the precise distance to any given satellite.
3) What does the triple point of water mean? The triple point is the temperature-pressure combination at which water exists with its solid, liquid and gas states in equilibrium. In the specific case of water this occurs at 0.01°C and 0.006 atmospheres of pressure.
4) What is the main working part inside of an atomic bomb called. There is a specific term for the inner workings. In the case of an implosion device, an explosive “tamper” is detonated. It consists of castable solid explosives shaped in the form of lenses which are symmetrically placed around a porous “core” which contains a required minimum amount of either uranium-235 or plutonium-239 (or both). The core in-turn compresses to its super-critical mass state while a neutron initiator is simultaneously triggered at the center of the core to initiate the chain reaction.
5) Explain the basic geometry of supersonic jet propulsion. Supersonic jets achieve their speed by forcing the expanding combusted fuel into a supercompressed state through a convergent nozzle, followed by its rapid expansion through a divergent nozzle. The two together are referred to as a de Laval nozzle. I actually constructed specialty de Laval nozzles many years ago for a novel application.
Now my turn to ask questions. When you read technical content do you absorb any of it?
Response:
Well you got two out of three…maybe 2 n 1/2
Now my turn to ask questions. When you read technical content do you absorb any of it?
No one understands gravity, or magnetism. Exaggeration.
No one knows how to turn off gravity or create artificial gravity. Agreed.
No one has figured out how light can be both a particle and a wave at the same time. There is no mystery to wave-particle duality. Particles are actually moving energy states. Because they can transfer energy and momentum in quantum packages they also act like discrete particles.
No one understands how a magnet can stick to a refrigerator and not fall off. Exaggeration.
Truth exists in Nuclear Reactions, Heat Exchangers, Bridge Construction, Rocket Fuel,
Internal Combustion Engines, Jet Engines, microprocessors, etc etc. All of those things actually work.
Tides also present Truth. Tides are essentially a perpetual motion machine and your response to my statement about tide energy says to me……your technical knowledge, intelligence and capability of comprehension of complex or even simple processes such as utilizing tides for energy generation are extremely lacking. I’ll get over your unqualified disdain. ==== http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_power
YOU DON’T GET IT
You like to put words in my mouth. Roy is far from ‘My Hero’. Not really.
He is an interesting old chap though and I have a high respect for the man. He could likely talk you into renouncing your citizenship.
He, like you, like any mere mortal, is not capable of pure Truth. He actually can be very insightful on the topic of human emotional trauma. He’s also often talks out of his ass. It’s the “also” part that many people have trouble seeing. This is why so many, after listening to him for years, are still stuck.
Roy gives out his phone number all the time. Just call him and discuss the matter.
It is really pretty simple. Roy is far closer to the Truth than anything you have presented.
Boy has he gotten to you. I don’t call Roy because the greatest deception he perpetrates on this topic is that he is a person of professional demeanor and wants to see if he’s wrong. His allowing two others on his show who occasionally superficially point out errors in his commentary is a colossal milestone. He would not debate me with a moderator because without his ability to simply hang up on me he would be lost. In this regard he is immensely “chicken shit”. Calling Roy without a semi-impartial moderator (even some FHU person faking objectivity) would have been a sucker bet. Hence this website.
Present your theory. Maybe it is better than what Roy Masters has presented. The process isn’t complicated. He has made bold statements now I point out his incompetence.
I really don’t care who has the Truth, or Correct Theory. I am just trying to figure gravity out. Without learning basic physics or tearing through the existing literature.
If you had not put up your Roy Rebuttal I would never have contacted you. Obviously.
Since I have no idea who you are, where you are, what your field of expertise is……..the entire interchange of words is only interesting due to the fact there are few folks in Las Vegas who can carry on a conversation much less discussing Gravity the Universe and Beyond. My identity isn’t important.
Roy is more often right than wrong. He is technically incompetent. He creates the illusion of discipline through bobbing and weaving banter. He lies when he states that he desperately wants to be shown up if he’s wrong. He challenges physicists to call his program and confront him the same way an old man in a retirement home says that he wishes Joe Louis would materialize in front of him in his prime so he could punch his lights out.
On the subject of physics Roy practices what psychologists call “as if”. He talks as though he’s onto something. It sounds like you are ensnared in his craftiness. What curfew did his set for you, this being a school night?
You really don’t like Roy….fine. You are entitled to be that way. keep you mind closed and you will get nowhere. Open your mind and maybe you will succeed in whatever you are trying to succeed at. Being open-minded can include reading someone’s commentary and seeing that they’re wrong. The close-mindedness is yours. Let’s get to a list of technical points which you will ignore.
1) Photons do not slow down in transparent material.
2) Photons in fact require their emitting source for power.
3) Surface tension is not caused by either atmospheric pressure or gravity. It is caused by chemical bonding in the liquid and the repulsion of electrons on the liquid’s surface.
4) A rotating space station does neither create gravity nor represent an infinite amount of energy.
5) Van der Waals forces is a topic of common knowledge.
6) There is no mystery as to why the Earth rotates or what keeps its core hot.
7) Roy is not a crystallographer.
8) Nothing has to keep electrons spinning if they are not losing energy.
9) Roy is not amenable to being proved wrong unless, egomaniac that he is, after being pressured, he can have a couple of his friends come onto his program who then walk on eggshells around him.
You see, I don’t have any agenda other than to discover or realize what is Truth when it comes to light, gravity etc. Roy has some good ideas and you disagree with his ideas. You are entitled to that.
As folks go in the good ole USA I am a highly intelligent individual. I don’t go around calling people morons unless they really are morons.
I did not review the stuff you posted on the site completely. It’s called technical illiteracy. I’ll add that everyone who has complained about this site has the same superficial attitude about reading what I’ve written.
What is your area of expertise? My technical points are enough info for anyone interested in where I’m coming from.
I hold a degree in Engineering. I know a lot about everything. My technical knowhow and knowledge is far greater than yours. Let me guess. Your IQ is so high that you are “untestable”. Also, your mother used to dress you up in Shirley Temple outfits and have you perform for party guests. That’s why science to you is solely a pissing contest.
Your technical knowledge is very limited. My first guess is you are some type of theoretical physicist who is great at cranking out equations but lacks any True view of Reality. As evidenced by my practical commentary and the physical products I have successfully developed.
I don’t claim to know it all and when … I get it wrong….I fess up. Core delusion.
The Force is With Me. – Don’t forget to strap on your Captain Video helmet and eat all your vegetables.
You keep referring to experts but you can’t explain anything in your own words. To borrow a phrase from you, you should pull your head out of your ass. You should go back to the front page of this website and read it over and over until it penetrates your psychosis.
If you can’t explain or understand GPS you are the moron. I explained it adequately given that I was asked a terse question about it.
Sounds like you are a jet engine mechanic or ran one of those welding machines to repair jet engine fan blades instead of replacing them. By chance, on one project, as Principal Investigator, I partially redesigned a turbine blade so that it would better resist select corrosion.
You can try……to insult me all you like. I know now I am technically superior.
You are technically weak. The only way to begin cracking through your morass of self-delusion and Roy Masters hero-worship is that you get deeply financially burned by someone like Roy. Why don’t you drain your bank account and insist on funding his “energy machine”. In your case it would probably take a full 2 years for you to start realizing that there is no substance there and that you need to reinvest yourself in actual science. Your attraction to Roy’s rhetoric is that you are both delusional about your expertise. My colleagues never regard me as self-promoting, but I’ll say that on your best day and my worst, you couldn’t wipe my ass as a practical and honest technologist. I wouldn’t hire you as a technician.
GPS Pseudorandom noise codes have to do with resonance. You can pull signals straight out of noise. You know that “shusss” sound between channels on an AM radio. The GPS signal level is actually a lower power signal than that shuss noise you hear between AM channels as you dial a radio. The GPS signal is actually ‘buried” in the noise. When you align the code from the satellite with the code in your GPS receiver you suddenly have resonance and can pull intelligent information right out of the noise. Since you are a babbling idiot you will not be able to comprehend any of this. Too too bad.
It is very similar to when a high pitch sound can break glass. Have you seen the video of the Tacoma Narrows bridge? The wind caused the bridge to resonate and the bridge was destroyed due to the fact the resonant frequency of the bridge that was very close to the sound the wind generated caused the bridge to oscillate violently and then it finally fell apart.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-zczJXSxnw
If you are going to call me a moron I am entitled to humor myself with the fact my knowledge and technical knowhow exceeds yours exponentially.
This comically underscores your self-delusion that you are a professional. You’re one of those people who think that you’re really top-notch because you’ve seen the film loop of the collapse of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge and have used the word “resonance” in conversation. Start reading hundreds of thousands of pages of legitimate technical literature, serve as principal investigator on a couple of dozen federally-funded research grants, design successful commercial products and then look back at your hero and realize that he is a posturing, double-talking half-wit.
I never quite get people like you. Just listen to his physics show, hear that he needs to be informed that there are no electrons in the electric field itself (after matter-of-factly writing and saying that there are) and start to suspect that his having such a show is a royal farce. It’s tribute to how successfully manipulative he can be.
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To the average reader of this exchange. It can seem very harsh. It is. Let me illustrate what characters like this do in a professional setting. They will superimpose their own pettiness over the technical agenda of the project. They might hire incompetent cronies and ignore useful information because it wasn’t “their idea”. It’s a sight to see. In the end, many people, especially at the lower end of the staff, get laid off and eventually the project collapses. They survive on venture or even federal money, perhaps generating some promising data but never fully succeeding. Literally, they might spend a few million dollars on an idea, find out from someone competent that it was flawed from the beginning and then shamelessly tell whoever is funding them that they are “making great headway” and “learning a lot”.